From: sabrina downard Date: 17:30 on 31 May 2007 Subject: What's Up Gold Going beyond the so very many things I find objectionable about having to use a Windows GUI-driven suite to monitor my UNIX systems and utilities, and especially one with such a loathsome name: Every time, every single damned time I find reason to think to myself that maybe, just maybe there's hope that using this package will be bearable, the goddamn software rips the hope right out of my hands and beats me over the head with it until I collapse. GODDAMMIT. Just make sense one time! Once! This is all I am asking of you! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. --s.
From: Jonathan Katz Date: 17:41 on 31 May 2007 Subject: Re: What's Up Gold ------=_Part_24968_23304214.1180629660662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline My condolences. Our network group uses it exclusively to monitor remote routers, etc. They seem to swear by it, but they use it for braindead tricks and not anything fancy, so I guess it suits them. If you want a fun toy for Unix boxes try Sun Management Center. On 5/31/07, sabrina downard <viv@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > Going beyond the so very many things I find objectionable about having > to use a Windows GUI-driven suite to monitor my UNIX systems and > utilities, and especially one with such a loathsome name: > > Every time, every single damned time I find reason to think to myself > that maybe, just maybe there's hope that using this package will be > bearable, the goddamn software rips the hope right out of my hands and > beats me over the head with it until I collapse. > > GODDAMMIT. Just make sense one time! Once! This is all I am asking of > you! > > aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. > --s. > ------=_Part_24968_23304214.1180629660662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline My condolences. Our network group uses it exclusively to monitor remote routers, etc. They seem to swear by it, but they use it for braindead tricks and not anything fancy, so I guess it suits them.<br><br>If you want a fun toy for Unix boxes try Sun Management Center. <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/31/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">sabrina downard</b> <<a href="mailto:viv@xxxxxxxx.xxx">viv@xxxxxxxx.xxx</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Going beyond the so very many things I find objectionable about having<br>to use a Windows GUI-driven suite to monitor my UNIX systems and<br>utilities, and especially one with such a loathsome name:<br><br>Every time, every single damned time I find reason to think to myself <br>that maybe, just maybe there's hope that using this package will be<br>bearable, the goddamn software rips the hope right out of my hands and<br>beats me over the head with it until I collapse.<br><br>GODDAMMIT. Just make sense one time! Once! This is all I am asking of you! <br><br>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.<br>--s.<br></blockquote></div> ------=_Part_24968_23304214.1180629660662--
From: Abigail
Date: 18:03 on 31 May 2007
Subject: Re: What's Up Gold
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On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:41:00PM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote:
> My condolences. Our network group uses it exclusively to monitor remote
> routers, etc. They seem to swear by it, but they use it for braindead tri=
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> and not anything fancy, so I guess it suits them.
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> If you want a fun toy for Unix boxes try Sun Management Center.
Right.
I used to give 'Solaris System Administrator' courses, which meant I
had to show SMC as well.
That would usually go like this:
- "People, after the coffee break, we'll look at Sun Mangement Center".
- I then instruct people how to start SMC.
- We go for coffee.
- By the time we get back, SMC is finally ready.
- I show how utterly slow the GUI is.
- I conclude the lesson with: "Now you know why real sysadmins use
the command line".
Abigail
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From: Jonathan Katz Date: 18:42 on 31 May 2007 Subject: Re: What's Up Gold ------=_Part_25913_26870553.1180633368421 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline SunMC and Solaris Management Console are two very different forms of hate that unfortunately share the same initials. When set up correctly SunMC will tell you the manufacturing plant where an individual DIMM in a 15K was made. Of course, it's not really necessary, but it is fun. On 5/31/07, Abigail <abigail@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote: > > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:41:00PM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote: > > My condolences. Our network group uses it exclusively to monitor remote > > routers, etc. They seem to swear by it, but they use it for braindead > tricks > > and not anything fancy, so I guess it suits them. > > > > If you want a fun toy for Unix boxes try Sun Management Center. > > > Right. > > I used to give 'Solaris System Administrator' courses, which meant I > had to show SMC as well. > > That would usually go like this: > > - "People, after the coffee break, we'll look at Sun Mangement Center". > - I then instruct people how to start SMC. > - We go for coffee. > - By the time we get back, SMC is finally ready. > - I show how utterly slow the GUI is. > - I conclude the lesson with: "Now you know why real sysadmins use > the command line". > > > ------=_Part_25913_26870553.1180633368421 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline SunMC and Solaris Management Console are two very different forms of hate that unfortunately share the same initials.<br><br>When set up correctly SunMC will tell you the manufacturing plant where an individual DIMM in a 15K was made. Of course, it's not really necessary, but it is fun. <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/31/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Abigail</b> <<a href="mailto:abigail@xxxxxxx.xx">abigail@xxxxxxx.xx</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:41:00PM -0400, Jonathan Katz wrote:<br>> My condolences. Our network group uses it exclusively to monitor remote<br>> routers, etc. They seem to swear by it, but they use it for braindead tricks <br>> and not anything fancy, so I guess it suits them.<br>><br>> If you want a fun toy for Unix boxes try Sun Management Center.<br><br><br>Right.<br><br>I used to give 'Solaris System Administrator' courses, which meant I <br>had to show SMC as well.<br><br>That would usually go like this:<br><br> - "People, after the coffee break, we'll look at Sun Mangement Center".<br> - I then instruct people how to start SMC.<br> - We go for coffee. <br> - By the time we get back, SMC is finally ready.<br> - I show how utterly slow the GUI is.<br> - I conclude the lesson with: "Now you know why real sysadmins use<br> the command line".<br><br><br></blockquote> </div> ------=_Part_25913_26870553.1180633368421--
From: Robert G. Werner Date: 18:08 on 31 May 2007 Subject: OT: Re: What's Up Gold sabrina downard wrote: > Going beyond the so very many things I find objectionable about having > to use a Windows GUI-driven suite to monitor my UNIX systems and > utilities, and especially one with such a loathsome name: [snip] Completely OT for this list but check out Argus (http://argus.tcp4me.com/)
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